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Hal Johnson's avatar

This is quite good, and you’re dead right on Prohibition. I read a lot of Temperance literature when doing research for the chapter in my alternate history book where Prohibition doesn’t come, and it was absolutely a women’s movement, which is why it happened around the same time as women getting the right to vote i.e. were on the political ascendency.

One tidbit about the loss of civil liberty in Prohibition times I found quite interesting: In 1925, the governor of Oregon, quite explicitly using Prohibition as his justification and motivation, declared quite openly that government agents were allowed to go into private homes to seek violators of the Volstead Act. “The laws and customs have changed vastly since first was announced the right and doctrine that every man’s home was his castle and sanctuary,” he explained. “We claim the right to go into any place in the State at any time as secret agents and to discover, if possible, law violations.”

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Lost Future's avatar

I don't have super-strong priors about legalizing prostitution either way, but I don't find 'prohibition doesn't work because there will always be a black market for it' to be a particularly strong argument. You could argue against making *anything* illegal this way. Criminalization doesn't stop homicide, burglaries, rape, or armed robberies either, but I'm not aware of anyone arguing that we should might as well make murder legal because black market murders will always exist.

I mean I'm just looking at your byline- 'you can't stop something that a critical mass of people want to do'. Of course you can, that's literally what civilization is. A critical mass of people want to punch each other over minor disputes, drive drunk, steal from each other, and so on. A critical mass of men would probably sexually harass or assault women if given the chance. Part of not living in literal anarchy is that we make an attempt to reduce the rates of this happening, knowing that we'll never achieve zero assaults or burglaries, but that some reduction is better than no reduction. There are certainly less homicides, burglaries etc. than if we had no law enforcement and no one was even attempting to stop these activities. Law enforcement of serious crimes is an ongoing, never-ending part of living in a civilization.

I would've been more interested in hearing an argument as to why you think prostitution is different from other major crimes that we all agree should be actively policed. But this simplistic argument comparing of everything to Prohibition I don't find to be very deep or interesting. (BTW Prohibition is hardly 'forgotten' and calling every proposed new law prohibition is a very very common ongoing trope in American society)

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